Sunday, March 22, 2015

Installing Solar Panels, Automatic Satellite Antenna, and Other Electrical Stuff.

I purchased four Solar World Sunmodule Plus SW 280 Mono Panels, back in November 2014, while I had the money.  I figure three would fit on the roof and would crank out 840 Watts peak, which is all my Morning Star Tristar 60 MPPT controller could handle.  I plan to make a tray to store the forth panel in, and use it during the Winter, or when camped under trees.
First two panels up, with enough room to walk between.  I used ARM-UNI Camanah Tilt Mount Kit.  Gives me the option to tilt if needed, and allows me to tilt them to clean the roof under the panels.
All Three panels and Satellite Antenna Mounted.  Just need to run wire down from the roof.
Here is the Montana at it's storage location.  Note the stands under the front four feet.  Without the stands, the Montana could not be leveled due slop from front to back.  The front legs do not have enough travel, and the middle jacks would be hanging in there air.
OK now the fun begins, running the wires down through the roof.  This model has a wall about six inch wide where the electric panel and control switch are.  So I bought a 1 foot long 1/4" drill bit, and unbolted the control center.

Eight screws removed, and let the panel hang by the wires.

Looking up threw the opening of the control center.
The gray wires are the solar panel wires.

Here you can see the box I put on the roof to feed the wire down from the roof.  Cables are secured with Galvanized Steel Clamps with rubber around the clamping part and stainless steel screw.  Tie wraps don't last but a year or two, so I don't recommend them.

Below the Control Center is a small closet to hang kids jackets, mine would never fit.
On the side where there is 3/4" wood I attached my first solar breaker panel.  One 10 Amp breaker for each of the four solar panels.  Each panel has MC-4 (10 GA) wires that go from panel to here.  Negative attached to the black bus, and the positive going threw the breaker and then to the red bus.  The four breaker goes to a plug in the convenience center to plug in the forth panel.  The wires leaving the bus are 6 GA wire.

Here you can see the Keystone neat wiring job (NOT).  The two red and black wire are the 6 GA wires going to the solar controller.

The positive 6 GA wire from the closet goes into a second circuit breaker (50 Amp), and from the breaker goes into the solar controller.

The output from the controller goes into the second 63 Amp breaker.  The reason for the second solar panel breaker is so I can disconnect incoming and out going power to the controller in one place.

On the output side of the solar controller after it leaves the circuit breaker goes to a selector switch, which allows me to route charging current to either my battery bank or the stock battery or both.

The larger selector switch below it, is for selecting feed power, 1 or 2  or both.

The inverter is installed just to the left of the solar breaker box.
Added labels

Battery box made out 1/4" plywood and 1" x 2".  Lined with shower pan liner.
This was in the old Montana.

Here you can see the 1" x 2"

Top cover, just sets on top, no fasteners needed

While I had the batteries out, washed down with backing soda.
Forth panel plug.
This one panel aimed at the Sun on a cloudy day put out more power than the three flat panels combined.

Shows wires going back to convenience center plug. 
Here I have my SeeLevel Tank monitor, Victor Battery Monitor, and EMS-50 Display. 
Cradle Point MBR1400 Router, with Verizon Modem Cap.  Solar controller is connected via Ethernet cable, and I can view status via PC or smart phone.
Here is sample screen of Solar Panel output.

Since it cost just $20 more to order an entire system, than to replace all for sensors, I order a new system.  I mounted the old display panel in the convenience center, so I can check tank levels at either location.  Displays tank levels at 6% increments.  Since the sensors mount on the outside of the tank, there are no false readings.
Had a rainy day, so worked on cleaning up Keystones rats nest.  Also adding a HDMI cable from TV to Satellite Receiver.

Here is the finished job.
Also mounted the inside Cell Phone Booster antenna.  The amplifier will go in the basement.  Mounted on the dresser in the bedroom and is aimed at the back of the Montana.
I mounted the satellite antenna control box in the basement.  This way I am outside and can monitor the antenna operations, and if it is still up when getting ready to move, it is easily accessible without having to go inside.
Here is where I mounted my 50 AMP Transfer Switch and my EMS-50 surge protector.
I have another 30 AMP Transfer switch on order, which will switch between the inverter and the generator.  This will make it foolproof, generator/inverter will have priority over shore power, and the generator will have priority over the inverter.  The switches will prevent two different power sources from entering the trailer.


Not really electrical.  I installed a small pressure tank on the water system.  The tank takes care of two things, one the water pump doesn't have to run as often, and two the tank will absorb water pressure spikes when hooked up to campground water systems.







45 comments:

  1. Wow, you've been busy! Nice job on cleaning up the electrical. Checking out the water pressure tank...mmmmm...look at all that lovely Pex! Love those outside the tank sensors too!

    Congratulations on the solar!

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  2. Must be nice having the talent to take on such projects John. Nice job!

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  3. I've got several comments about your install.... First one is why you ran #6 for an 8 amp circuit when # 14 would have been more than adequate, and #8 is adequate for a series-connected arrangement? The second is why you decided to run multiple pairs when you could easily have connected them in series through a single breaker, and then to a high voltage controller?? Aside from the incedibly poorly done factory wiring arrangement, you are fortunate to have so much space to make your runs and tidy things up! This is what really gets me about the current approach to building RV's.

    My other question is why you used a conductive (metal) battery tray??? Or am I seeing it wrong? This is something that's avoided like the plague in professional battery-based power systems because of the potential for acid corrosion and short circuits and seems like a poor plan for any vehicle. This is especially true when flooded LA batteries like those Trojans are used. A much safer approach would be to line the box with hand laminated polyester-fiberglass coated with epoxy paint. Safety first!

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    1. Hi Matt,

      Thanks for the comments, it is nice to here from folks. First lets take the easy one first. Battery box made out 1/4" plywood and 1" x 2". Lined with shower pan liner. Shower pan liner is a 90 mil vinyl. This year I replace the six golf cart batteries with Chevy Volt Lithium Batteries, see latest blog.

      Now for Solar panels, there are lots of ways to wire them up. My previous Montana I have flexible panels which were shad tolerant. This Montana has three 280 Watt panels on the roof, and a forth one I can setup on the ground. I ran test on the panels on the ground before installing them, and I got the best performance with each panel in parallel vs series or combo on series parallel.

      The separate breaker on each panel, allows me to take the panel offline if it is shaded, without that, the panel will consume power while it is in the shade. It also helps me see how much power each panel is putting out.

      DC loads make for larger voltage drops than AC. Many installers like to use even bigger wire size, and most put the concatenate on the roof, but that means you have to climb up on the roof, which I am not a fan of, for maintenance.


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  4. Do you have the capacity to run your AC units or an 800 watt microwave on your solar/battery bank? Here in Florida you cannot live in a house (neverless an RV) without AC... too hot!!!

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  5. My inverter is not big enough to run A/C. It would drain the battery pretty fast. There's no free lunch.

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  6. So how large an inverter would you need, and perhaps 2 more T105's? I guess if you are up in the mountains where its cooler. Part of the problem here is the humidity.

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    1. Hi Dan,

      I replaced my six Golf Cart Batteries with 4 Lithium batteries from a Chevy Volt. See my blog post for February and March 2016.

      On six Golf Cart batteries, you could run the A/C for 1 to 2 hours (assuming your inverter is big enough), but that much current will really tax lead acid batteries.

      I you solar panels are putting out, you may get more run time on the A/C, say may 2-3 hours, but you batteries will not be charged going into the night. Two run A/C via solar, you will need 2,000+ Watts and full sun.

      A lot of folks use something like MAGNUM Hybrid Series Inverter/Charger, which allows them to run A/C off a 15 amp circuit, the extra power required is pulled from the batteries (and solar).

      I am planning on do this upgrade next year or the year after, before I retire and hit the road.


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  7. John,
    Did you run the satellite cables from the control box in the basement to the satellite jacks in the conveniunce center?
    Thanks
    Larry

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    1. Sorry Larry, miss your comment. Yes that is what I did, just took the wire off the back side and connected it to the satellite antenna.

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